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		<title>Why Innocent People Need Lawyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miami criminal defense attorney Brian Tannebaum writes about people who fear that hiring an attorney will make them look guilty.  I see this, too, although by the time people call me, they&#8217;ve usually gotten past that point.
More often what I see is people who become uncomfortable after I tell them to stop talking to others.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Tannebaum Weiss Attorneys at Law" href="http://www.tannebaumweiss.com/" target="_blank">Miami criminal defense attorney</a> Brian Tannebaum <a title="But Won't I Look Guilty?" href="http://criminaldefenseblog.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">writes</a> about people who fear that hiring an attorney will make them look guilty.  I see this, too, although by the time people call me, they&#8217;ve usually gotten past that point.</p>
<p>More often what I see is people who become uncomfortable after I tell them to stop talking to others.  <em>In particular</em>, I want them to stop talking to the police.  <em>That&#8217;s </em>when I tend to hear, &#8220;But won&#8217;t I look guilty?&#8221;</p>
<p>And my response to them is the same as Brian&#8217;s response to people who think they&#8217;ll look guilty just by hiring an attorney: &#8220;No.  You already look guilty.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just one of the reasons innocent people need lawyers.</p>
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<p>The <a title="RHDefense" href="http://rhdefense.com/" target="_blank">main page of my website</a> contains <a title="Don't Talk to the Police by Officer George Bruch" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6014022229458915912&amp;hl=en" target="_blank">a link</a> to Officer George Bruch of the Virginia Beach police department, talking about why people should not talk to the police.  As he notes near the beginning of his lecture, &#8220;People are inherently honest.  And that&#8217;s their biggest downfall.&#8221;</p>
<p>Officer Bruch appears to be like most people: inherently honest.  Officer Bruch states,</p>
<blockquote><p>I have my job.  My job is to develop probable cause.  Develop a good case.  A <em>great </em>case is a case with a confession.  Get it to the commonwealth&#8217;s attorney, so that they can prosecute the case with little, if any, effort.</p></blockquote>
<p>And he goes on to point out,</p>
<blockquote><p>The defense attorney&#8217;s job, is to hope that they get to their client before I do, and make sure they don&#8217;t talk to me.  No matter what.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now this has <em>nothing </em>to do with whether or not a person is innocent.  As Officer Bruch also admits,</p>
<blockquote><p>Say you wanted to go into a boxing match.  Hundred dollars if you win.  You&#8217;ve never boxed before.  You have to face somebody who is an Olympic boxer.  <em>You&#8217;re going to lose.</em> If you&#8217;re going to face somebody who has been interviewing people for, in my case, 28 years, <em>you&#8217;re going to lose</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Officer Bruch goes on to indicate that this is different if someone is actually really innocent.  But he points out that he tries not to bring innocent people into the interrogation room.  To stress that point, he even says it again at the end of his lecture, after he&#8217;s told you some of the ways he and other officers trick people into saying (and doing) things that help get them convicted.</p>
<p>Now what&#8217;s the problem with that scenario?  What does that tell us?  The first thing it tells us is that if the police want to talk to you — if they&#8217;ve already decided that they want to question you, or, as Officer Bruch says, bring you into the interview room — they&#8217;ve already decided you are <em>not </em>innocent.  And, remember, their job is to &#8220;<em>develop </em>probable cause.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is an interesting choice of wording.  Officer Bruch didn&#8217;t say that his job was to prove probable cause existed.  (In fairness, he would probably respond that that is what he <em>meant</em>, even though it&#8217;s not what he said.)  The officer&#8217;s job, having already decided that you&#8217;re guilty — remember, he wouldn&#8217;t have brought you in for questioning if he didn&#8217;t already think you were guilty — is to <em>develop</em>, or <em>create</em>, probable cause.  His job is to make the prosecutor&#8217;s job easy.</p>
<p>The <em>second </em>thing Officer Bruch&#8217;s words tell us is that the police <em>will </em>try to trick you into giving them stuff they can use to get a conviction; they&#8217;ll even lie to you.  I&#8217;m not going to go into all the &#8220;tricks of the trade&#8221; that Officer Bruch describes.  You can <a title="Don't Talk to the Police by Officer George Bruch" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6014022229458915912&amp;hl=en" target="_blank">watch the video</a> for that.  (The video is only 21 minutes long.)</p>
<p>What&#8217;s important to notice about this, what&#8217;s important to remember, is Officer Bruch&#8217;s analogy to the amateur versus professional boxer.  Even if you happen to be a person who gets to talk to the police a lot, don&#8217;t make the mistake of thinking you can outsmart them in an interview.  By the time an officer reaches the point where he&#8217;s interviewing you, he&#8217;s received specialized training in how to interview people. <em>And </em>he&#8217;s decided you&#8217;re guilty, or he wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;interviewing&#8221; you.  (Officer Bruch also points out how they prefer the term &#8220;interview&#8221; when they really mean &#8220;interrogation,&#8221; because people who are &#8220;interviewed&#8221; are more willing to talk: &#8220;We don&#8217;t do interrogations.  That&#8217;s a bad, mean, nazi-kind of word.&#8221;)</p>
<p>In addition, an officer knows how to write a report to make even innocent statements appear to be &#8220;confessions.&#8221;  The story I like to tell clients when I&#8217;m explaining why they have to stop talking goes like this,</p>
<blockquote><p>A kid is in a hurry; he&#8217;s late for work.  So he&#8217;s running down the street just as fast as he can.  He tears around the corner and accidentally runs into a woman with a bag of groceries.  He&#8217;s going so fast, she&#8217;s knocked to the ground.  Groceries go everywhere.  Her purse comes off her shoulder and falls open.</p>
<p>The kid apologizes profusely.  He&#8217;s <em>so </em>sorry.  It was a <em>complete </em>accident.  He helps the woman to her feet and begins picking up her groceries, stuffing things into the bag as fast as he can.  He grabs her purse and begins putting the contents back into it before handing it back to her.  When he&#8217;s done, he asks if she&#8217;s alright.  She says that she is, and he takes off running.  After all, now he&#8217;s <em>really </em>late for work.</p>
<p><em>Neither the woman nor the kid realized it,</em> but when her purse fell open, her wallet went down into the sewer drain.  Later, the woman realizes her wallet is gone.  She isn&#8217;t sure whether the kid stole her wallet — he seemed so nice! — but her husband insists she call the police.</p>
<p>Somehow the officer locates the kid and questions him.  &#8220;Tell me what happened,&#8221; he says.  The kid explains how he was in a hurry because he was late for work, ran around the corner too fast, didn&#8217;t realize the woman was there, accidentally knocked her down, stopped to pick up her things and gave them back to her.  &#8220;Did you give back her wallet?,&#8221; the officer asks.  &#8220;I don&#8217;t remember,&#8221; the kid replies.  He&#8217;s an honest kid.  And he <em>is </em>honestly innocent.  (The wallet went down the storm drain, remember?)  &#8220;So you might <em>not </em>have given her wallet back?&#8221;  &#8220;I don&#8217;t remember <em>seeing </em>her wallet,&#8221; the kid says. &#8220;And you ran away after?,&#8221; asks the officer.  &#8220;I asked if she was okay.  When she said she was, I took off because I was late for work.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Good enough.  The innocent kid talked to the police.  He didn&#8217;t confess to any crimes.  He was honest.  He just answered the questions the best he could.  And he did not say that he stole the wallet or did anything else wrong.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what the police report says,</p>
<blockquote><p>The suspect admitted to assaulting the victim and knocking her to the ground.  Suspect confessed that he ran away and did not return her wallet.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s how the officer will testify.  That&#8217;s what a jury will hear.</p>
<p>What about all that other stuff?  And the interview was tape-recorded, wasn&#8217;t it?  Here&#8217;s Officer Bruch again:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ll take it [the interview] off the tape and I&#8217;ll have my secretary put it to paper.  Immediately afterwards, I&#8217;ll take that tape and I&#8217;ll scan it over my magnet, throw it in my box, so I can use it again.  I do not keep the tape.  It is not evidence.  It&#8217;s not <em>required </em>to be evidence.  If it&#8217;s there for the court, it&#8217;s just extra.  You don&#8217;t have to have that&#8230;.  You&#8217;ve got the guy [the police officer] right there to tell you what happened.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only you don&#8217;t.  You have the guy right there to tell you what <em>he says </em>happened.  And in the case of our hurried kid, trying not to lose his job, thinking he&#8217;s innocent&#8230;you have &#8220;a confession.&#8221;  When the prosecutor asks the officer if the kid told him he returned the wallet, the officer will truthfully testify, &#8220;He did not say that.&#8221;</p>
<p>And <em>that&#8217;s </em>why innocent people need lawyers.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to go up against a professional boxer, you should hire your own professional boxer to stand in for you.</p>
<p>Now stop talking.  <a title="Contact Information for the Law Office of Rick Horowitz" href="http://www.rhdefense.com/contact.html" target="_blank">And call me.</a></p>
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		<title>Innocent Although &#8220;Proven&#8221; Guilty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Governor Schwarzenegger today vetoed, among other anti-crime bills, a bill which would have required corroborating evidence for the testimony of jailhouse snitches.
Has the Governor gone soft on crime?

Not infrequently, a case will come to trial which is, shall we say, &#8220;lacking in evidence or witnesses.&#8221;  When this happens, the prosecution has numerous other &#8220;tools&#8221; to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governor Schwarzenegger today vetoed, among other anti-crime bills, a bill which would have required corroborating evidence for the testimony of jailhouse snitches.</p>
<p>Has the Governor gone soft on crime?</p>
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<p>Not infrequently, a case will come to trial which is, shall we say, &#8220;lacking in evidence or witnesses.&#8221;  When this happens, the prosecution has numerous other &#8220;tools&#8221; to assist them in making up for the missing evidence.</p>
<p>More often than not, the &#8220;tool&#8221; will be another prisoner.  A &#8220;jailhouse snitch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jailhouse snitches are always, of course, acting out of the goodness of their hearts.  Their compassion for &#8220;victims&#8221; and their sense of duty and justice is so strong that you can&#8217;t help but wonder how they ended up in jail in the first place.  Their trustworthiness, gregariousness, charm, and suaveness are so apparent that every <em>real </em>criminal who comes near them is compelled to confess their darkest secrets.</p>
<p>So it is perhaps surprising for sane people to realize that,</p>
<blockquote><p>In more than 15% of cases of wrongful conviction overturned by DNA testing, an informant or jailhouse snitch testified against the defendant. Often, statements from people with incentives to testify – particularly incentives that are not disclosed to the jury – are the central evidence in convicting an innocent person.  (<a title="Understand the Causes: Informants/Snitches" href="http://www.innocenceproject.org/understand/Snitches-Informants.php" target="_blank">&#8220;Understand the Causes: Informants/Snitches&#8221;</a>, Innocence Project.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Fortunately for California, Governor Schwarzenegger is a maverick who refuses to be counted among the sane.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hotly debated legislation by state Sen. Gloria Romero (D-Los Angeles) to prohibit convictions based on the uncorroborated testimony of a jailhouse informant also fell by the wayside. Schwarzenegger explained his veto of SB 1589 by saying that the testimony of in-custody informants is rarely used and that current laws &#8220;provide adequate safeguards against its misuse.&#8221; (Nancy Vogel, <a title="Schwarzenegger vetoes cosmetic surgery bill" href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-arnold29-2008sep29,0,1579699.story" target="_blank">&#8220;Schwarzenegger vetoes cosmetic surgery bill&#8221;</a> (September 29, 2008) Los Angeles Times.)</p></blockquote>
<p><em>A</em><em>ssuming the Governor is correct</em>, this shows just how great the need for SB 1589 is.</p>
<p>Think about it.  According to the Governor, prosecutors seldom secure succor from such snitches.  If that&#8217;s true, then SB 1589 would not impact very many cases.  On the other hand, as noted, these &#8220;rare&#8221; cases result in a substantial number of false convictions.</p>
<p>Governor Schwarzenegger disingenuously states that,</p>
<blockquote><p>[T]he evaluation of the credibliity of a witness has always been uniquely within the province of the jury.  This bill would usurp the juries&#8217; function by fixing in statute a rule that all in-custody informants have lied before the fact.  (<a title="Governor Schwarzenegger's SB 1589 Veto Letter" href="http://gov.ca.gov/pdf/press/SB_1589_Romero_Veto_Message.pdf" target="_blank">Governor Schwarzeneggar&#8217;s letter</a> to the California State Senate vetoing SB 1589.)</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s not <a title="Text of SB 1589" href="http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/sen/sb_1551-1600/sb_1589_bill_20080814_enrolled.html" target="_blank">what SB 1589 stated.</a> The bill simply required that in order to obtain a conviction based on the testimony of in-custody informants, there must be corroboration.  A similar rule, which has existed for hundreds of years, &#8220;usurps the juries&#8217; function&#8221; when it comes to uncorroborated confessions.  It&#8217;s called <a title="The General Principles of the Law of Evidence" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=riY-AAAAIAAJ&amp;pg=PA465&amp;lpg=PA465&amp;dq=corpus+delicti+confession&amp;source=web&amp;ots=0J88snfpsu&amp;sig=oYabxxyvHR3yeIyw0DGmcAftfF0&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=7&amp;ct=result" target="_blank">&#8220;corpus delicti.&#8221;</a> The impetus for that rule, like SB 1589, came after several innocent people were convicted (and executed) for the murders of missing people who later turned out to be very much alive.  (David A. Moran, <a title="In Defense of the Corpus Delicti Rule" href="http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/lawjournal/issues/volume64/number3/moran.pdf" target="_blank">&#8220;In Defense of the Corpus Delicti Rule&#8221;</a> (2003) Ohio State Law Journal, pp. 826-827.)</p>
<p>Sadly, we are speedily slipping back to those days.  The rights of the accused are most definitely not in vogue.  But isn&#8217;t it about time the pendulum swung back the other way a bit?  There have been <a title="Innocence Project Case Files" href="http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/" target="_blank">220 exonerations by DNA</a> evidence since 1989.  A wrongly-convicted man in Dallas, Texas, recently became the <em>twentieth</em> person to be exonerated by DNA in that county since 2001.  That&#8217;s just <em>one </em>jurisdiction!  Unfortunately, not every case involves DNA. If you count exonerations by other means, there are 360 exonerations since the year 2000 in the United states; that&#8217;s 360 we <em>know </em>were innocent, but convicted!</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it time to return to some of the common sense safeguards our ancestors embraced?  Isn&#8217;t it time to stop being soft on those who work to falsely convict the innocent amongst us?  Making convictions easier means making it easier to convict innocent people.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as simple — as easy — as that.</p>
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