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		<title>Comment on The Accidental Pro Bono Attorney by Don Waggoner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Waggoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the best post on this issue I have seen.  I believe it fits my situation to a T.  I am tired, and, yes, Brian, I know it&#039;s my own fault, of agreeing to payments from a client only to find I am on a leash and the next or final payment is contingent on the results I get.  Then they get mad when I sue them for the rest (which I have rarely done).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best post on this issue I have seen.  I believe it fits my situation to a T.  I am tired, and, yes, Brian, I know it&#8217;s my own fault, of agreeing to payments from a client only to find I am on a leash and the next or final payment is contingent on the results I get.  Then they get mad when I sue them for the rest (which I have rarely done).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Accidental Pro Bono Attorney by Christopher G. Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.rhdefense.com/blog/my-practice-experiences/the-accidental-pro-bono-attorney/comment-page-1/#comment-1456</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher G. Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Rick.  I think that you hit the nail on the head.  I&#039;ve done my share of involuntary pro bono work and it generally is no fun.  Better to turn down a client then take one on and end up working for free.
.-= Christopher G. Hill&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://constructionlawva.com/green-building-and-jazz-what-could-be-better/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Green Building and Jazz- What Could be Better?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Rick.  I think that you hit the nail on the head.  I&#8217;ve done my share of involuntary pro bono work and it generally is no fun.  Better to turn down a client then take one on and end up working for free.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Christopher G. Hill&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://constructionlawva.com/green-building-and-jazz-what-could-be-better/" rel="nofollow">Green Building and Jazz- What Could be Better?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.rhdefense.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Come to the Cut&#8221; by Lazy Sunday Links 3.7.10: &#8220;Come to the (e-Discovery) Cut&#8221; &#124; Gabe&#39;s Guide to the e-Discovery Universe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Sunday Links 3.7.10: &#8220;Come to the (e-Discovery) Cut&#8221; &#124; Gabe&#39;s Guide to the e-Discovery Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On something Ed had covered a few days ago, Rick Horowitz invites you to &#8220;Come to the Cut.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On something Ed had covered a few days ago, Rick Horowitz invites you to &#8220;Come to the Cut.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ignorance of the Sausage by &#8220;Come to the Cut&#8221; &#124; Probable Cause</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Come to the Cut&#8221; &#124; Probable Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] probably occurred because of another ambiguity in the opinion.  (I have argued elsewhere that sloppy opinion-writing is one of the things that make unpublished opinions problematic.)  The opinion itself states: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] probably occurred because of another ambiguity in the opinion.  (I have argued elsewhere that sloppy opinion-writing is one of the things that make unpublished opinions problematic.)  The opinion itself states: [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shame of the Juvenile Court by Legislating Morality &#124; Probable Cause</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legislating Morality &#124; Probable Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] doing anything illegal by not fighting back against &#8220;minor&#8221; wrongs like the routine shackling of juveniles. Despite inflation, if I only had a nickel for every time another attorney [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] doing anything illegal by not fighting back against &#8220;minor&#8221; wrongs like the routine shackling of juveniles. Despite inflation, if I only had a nickel for every time another attorney [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anonymous Bloggers by REvers</title>
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		<dc:creator>REvers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has experienced an attempt to get me fired by a lawyer who didn&#039;t like a post I made on our state bar chat board, I completely understand the desire to post anonymously.  While I appreciate the openness of the guys who are in business for themselves, not everyone who has a valid opinion is in the same position.  I don&#039;t really think my boss would fire me for something I said, but at the same time I don&#039;t really feel the need to deal with that kind of crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has experienced an attempt to get me fired by a lawyer who didn&#8217;t like a post I made on our state bar chat board, I completely understand the desire to post anonymously.  While I appreciate the openness of the guys who are in business for themselves, not everyone who has a valid opinion is in the same position.  I don&#8217;t really think my boss would fire me for something I said, but at the same time I don&#8217;t really feel the need to deal with that kind of crap.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anonymous Bloggers by shg</title>
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		<dc:creator>shg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That, dear Hamilton, is the Publius Syndrome.  It only applies if you suffer from paranoid delusions that you are new James Madison, and hence entitled to take comfort in the pseudonymous ways of our founding fathers.  If you do not fancy yourself the modern day equivalent of a founding father, then you will need to find a more applicable rationale for the choice.
.-= shg&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.simplejustice.us/2010/03/01/taking-a-breather.aspx?ref=rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Taking a Breather&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That, dear Hamilton, is the Publius Syndrome.  It only applies if you suffer from paranoid delusions that you are new James Madison, and hence entitled to take comfort in the pseudonymous ways of our founding fathers.  If you do not fancy yourself the modern day equivalent of a founding father, then you will need to find a more applicable rationale for the choice.<br />
<span class="cluv"> shg&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://blog.simplejustice.us/2010/03/01/taking-a-breather.aspx?ref=rss" rel="nofollow">Taking a Breather</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.rhdefense.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Anonymous Bloggers by Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone wrote anonymously in the 18th-century. It was the custom! Hamilton was a decorated war hero; he led a nighttime infantry charge over Redoubt #10 at Yorktown, the last decisive battle of the revolution. He also fought on the battlefield at Monmouth, NJ, and was nearly killed there. Another officer mentioned his &quot;frenzy of valor&quot; at that battle. He was fearless and loved to fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone wrote anonymously in the 18th-century. It was the custom! Hamilton was a decorated war hero; he led a nighttime infantry charge over Redoubt #10 at Yorktown, the last decisive battle of the revolution. He also fought on the battlefield at Monmouth, NJ, and was nearly killed there. Another officer mentioned his &#8220;frenzy of valor&#8221; at that battle. He was fearless and loved to fight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anonymous Bloggers by Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting post.  One point you made resonated - lawyers tend to castigate others for using the internet in a way that they deem unacceptable.  I do this too.  I think it&#039;s in the nature of being a lawyer unfortunately.  It&#039;s something I have to work pretty hard to resist.  It&#039;s just wasted energy in my opinion.  The internet is a big place!  (That said, there&#039;s a lot of shifty marketing going on and Greenfield and others have done a great job is exposing this.)

W/respect to anonymity, I&#039;ve never understood why people get so excited about anonymity.  People see it as coming out of weakness.  Some see it as generational.  At the end of the day, it&#039;s really not that big of a deal, and in situations where it is a big deal, people put in the requisite amount of energy and will expose what needs to be exposed.  I really don&#039;t get why all of this energy is spent on this.  I personally don&#039;t see blogging anonymously as somehow negative, and I&#039;ve never understood why people attack ideas put forth by others because they are offered anonymously.  That just makes me discount the person attacking on the basis of anonymity a bit.  But we&#039;re all human, and I probably would attack someone for approaching blogging in a way that doesn&#039;t feel acceptable to me.  

It is what it is.  Either way, good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting post.  One point you made resonated &#8211; lawyers tend to castigate others for using the internet in a way that they deem unacceptable.  I do this too.  I think it&#8217;s in the nature of being a lawyer unfortunately.  It&#8217;s something I have to work pretty hard to resist.  It&#8217;s just wasted energy in my opinion.  The internet is a big place!  (That said, there&#8217;s a lot of shifty marketing going on and Greenfield and others have done a great job is exposing this.)</p>
<p>W/respect to anonymity, I&#8217;ve never understood why people get so excited about anonymity.  People see it as coming out of weakness.  Some see it as generational.  At the end of the day, it&#8217;s really not that big of a deal, and in situations where it is a big deal, people put in the requisite amount of energy and will expose what needs to be exposed.  I really don&#8217;t get why all of this energy is spent on this.  I personally don&#8217;t see blogging anonymously as somehow negative, and I&#8217;ve never understood why people attack ideas put forth by others because they are offered anonymously.  That just makes me discount the person attacking on the basis of anonymity a bit.  But we&#8217;re all human, and I probably would attack someone for approaching blogging in a way that doesn&#8217;t feel acceptable to me.  </p>
<p>It is what it is.  Either way, good post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anonymous Bloggers by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...okay. I didn&#039;t see a comparison between your post and Norm&#039;s post.  They&#039;re actually completely different. 

What I said was that your post made me first start thinking about writing a post about &quot;people who use the Internet differently than we do&quot; -- and then I wasn&#039;t perhaps clear enough to write that while initially the idea to write was sparked by your post, &quot;what finally makes me speak out is Norm Pattis....&quot;  

So in retrospect I can see why you think I was addressing both issues, even though the rest of my post talked only about anonymous and pseudonymous blogging (neither of which Koehler was doing).  I guess I could have added in there somewhere, &quot;So while Scott&#039;s post sparked my thinking about lawyers blogging, I&#039;m not going to talk about the marketing aspect; I&#039;ll focus only on the anonymous or pseudonymous blogging aspect.&quot;

And I have read a lot -- though not all those you listed -- on the issue of anonymous blogging.  In fact, my interest in this goes back to before I started blogging here, back even to before I was an attorney.  I&#039;ve been blogging since before there was blogging software.  (I talked about that &lt;a href=&quot;http://unspun.us/blogs-blogging/another-reason-to-love-wordpress/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Another Reason to Love Wordpress&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here,&lt;/a&gt; for anyone interested in knowing my blogging history.)  And this issue has come up for me before in relation to anonymous commenters.

My disagreement with those who rant against anonymous or pseudonymous bloggers doesn&#039;t come from lack of knowledge.  It&#039;s a difference of opinion, driven, in fact, by the same philosophy that causes us to have a different approach to people who post comments on our blogs.  I stopped posting on yours (except short &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; focused comments) because I could never tell which comments you thought were &quot;off topic&quot; and thus you were going to delete and/or criticize me for; I don&#039;t know that I&#039;ve ever deleted or refused to post comments on my blog except when for spam.  As you&#039;ve pointed out when we discussed that once, it&#039;s more work that way -- because I often find myself responding longer than I normally would to idiots -- but it&#039;s a philosophy I&#039;ve adopted at least &lt;a href=&quot;http://unspun.us/culture-wars/our-irrelevant-constitution/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Our Irrelevant Constitution&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as early as May 2004.&lt;/a&gt;

There&#039;s no question that honoring the principles that permit anonymous or pseudonymous writing can also be more difficult than not.  My difference of opinion with you on this is a choice, not a lack of thinking on the issue.  You can call it that, if you want, but it&#039;s a topic on which I&#039;ve thought and written off and on for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;okay. I didn&#8217;t see a comparison between your post and Norm&#8217;s post.  They&#8217;re actually completely different. </p>
<p>What I said was that your post made me first start thinking about writing a post about &#8220;people who use the Internet differently than we do&#8221; &#8212; and then I wasn&#8217;t perhaps clear enough to write that while initially the idea to write was sparked by your post, &#8220;what finally makes me speak out is Norm Pattis&#8230;.&#8221;  </p>
<p>So in retrospect I can see why you think I was addressing both issues, even though the rest of my post talked only about anonymous and pseudonymous blogging (neither of which Koehler was doing).  I guess I could have added in there somewhere, &#8220;So while Scott&#8217;s post sparked my thinking about lawyers blogging, I&#8217;m not going to talk about the marketing aspect; I&#8217;ll focus only on the anonymous or pseudonymous blogging aspect.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I have read a lot &#8212; though not all those you listed &#8212; on the issue of anonymous blogging.  In fact, my interest in this goes back to before I started blogging here, back even to before I was an attorney.  I&#8217;ve been blogging since before there was blogging software.  (I talked about that <a href="http://unspun.us/blogs-blogging/another-reason-to-love-wordpress/" target="_blank" title="Another Reason to Love Wordpress"" rel="nofollow">here,</a> for anyone interested in knowing my blogging history.)  And this issue has come up for me before in relation to anonymous commenters.</p>
<p>My disagreement with those who rant against anonymous or pseudonymous bloggers doesn&#8217;t come from lack of knowledge.  It&#8217;s a difference of opinion, driven, in fact, by the same philosophy that causes us to have a different approach to people who post comments on our blogs.  I stopped posting on yours (except short <em>very</em> focused comments) because I could never tell which comments you thought were &#8220;off topic&#8221; and thus you were going to delete and/or criticize me for; I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ve ever deleted or refused to post comments on my blog except when for spam.  As you&#8217;ve pointed out when we discussed that once, it&#8217;s more work that way &#8212; because I often find myself responding longer than I normally would to idiots &#8212; but it&#8217;s a philosophy I&#8217;ve adopted at least <a href="http://unspun.us/culture-wars/our-irrelevant-constitution/" target="_blank" title="Our Irrelevant Constitution" rel="nofollow">as early as May 2004.</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s no question that honoring the principles that permit anonymous or pseudonymous writing can also be more difficult than not.  My difference of opinion with you on this is a choice, not a lack of thinking on the issue.  You can call it that, if you want, but it&#8217;s a topic on which I&#8217;ve thought and written off and on for years.</p>
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