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		<title>Facebooking Jurors Before Letting Them In YourSpace</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe that title is a little too cute.  (I picked it after Kerry Prindiville, a librarian at the Fresno Public Law Library, sent me the link to an article on the use of social networking sites by jury consultants.)  And maybe it&#8217;s time for me to move on from writing about MySpace, Facebook and other [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that title is a little too cute.  (I picked it after Kerry Prindiville, a librarian at the Fresno Public Law Library, sent me <a title="Social Networking Sites Help Vet Jurors" href="http://www.law.com/jsp/legaltechnology/pubArticleLT.jsp?id=1202423725315" target="_blank">the link to an article</a> on the use of social networking sites by jury consultants.)  And maybe it&#8217;s time for me to move on from writing about MySpace, Facebook and other social networking sites.  It&#8217;s something of a hot topic, however, and I have some pretty strong feelings about it.</p>
<p>My other articles about this may be found <a title="MySpace Mistakes &amp; Facebook Follies" href="http://www.rhdefense.com/blog/evidence/myspace-mistakes-facebook-follies/" target="_blank">here </a>and <a title="More MySpace Mistakes; Further Facebook Follies" href="http://www.rhdefense.com/blog/evidence/more-myspace-mistakes-further-facebook-follies/" target="_blank">here.</a> Those articles have started to attract some attention of their own&#8230;.</p>
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<p>The first article brought attention from both <a title="Are You on Facebook or MySpace? (Sam Hasler's Indiana Divorce &amp; Family Law Blog)" href="http://haslerlaw2.blogspot.com/2008/07/are-you-on-facebook-or-myspace.html" target="_blank">Sam Hasler&#8217;s Indiana Divorce &amp; Family Law Blog</a> and <a title="LawyersUSA Online" href="http://www.lawyersusaonline.com/" target="_blank">LawyersUSA.</a> When Boston reporter Justin Rebello first contacted me I wasn&#8217;t sure I&#8217;d be able to read the article he was planning to write: LawyersUSA runs around $199 per year —a little out of my range for a magazine.  However, it turns out the article can be found <a title="Using social networks to investigate your case" href="http://www.lawyersusaonline.com/index.cfm/archive/view/id/431493" target="_blank">online here.</a><sup>1</sup></p>
<p><a title="Google search: &quot;social networking law&quot;" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=social+networking+law&amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank">A simple Google search</a> will show you the importance of social networking and the law in general.  As has already been discussed here on Probable Cause, <a title="Use of social network websites in investigations (Wikipedia)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_social_network_websites_in_investigations" target="_blank">investigators are increasingly using social networking sites</a> in both civil and criminal investigations.  In 2006, the House of Representatives passed a bill, which later hung up in a Senate committee, to <a title="3 version of DOPA (Library of Congress)" href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.5319:" target="_blank">&#8220;delete online predators&#8221;</a> and Senator Ted &#8220;Internet Tubes&#8221; Stevens (R-AK) <a title="Deleting Online Predators Act reappears for 2007" href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070216-8869.html" target="_blank">(as Jacqui Cheng of Ars Technica appropriately called him)</a> made another run at it in 2007.  Social networking sites and blogs have resulted in <a title="The Legal Perils of Social Networking" href="http://www.technewsworld.com/story/The-Legal-Perils-of-Social-Networking-64171.html" target="_blank">lost jobs, libel and defamation lawsuits, as well as suits for copyright infringement.</a> Lawyers <a title="Lawyer2Lawyer Podcast: Social Networking and the Law" href="http://bllsulaw.blogspot.com/2008/01/lawyer2lawyer-podcast-social-networking.html" target="_blank">are podcasting</a> about social networking and the law.  Stanford Law School is holding <a title="Social Networking Law 2008 - Risks and Opportunities" href="http://www.law.stanford.edu/calendar/details/1077/Social%20Networking%20Law%202008%20-%20Risks%20and%20Opportunities/#related_information_and_recordings" target="_blank">seminars on social networking law.</a> Jury consultants are using MySpace, Facebook and other social networking sites <a title="Social Networking Sites Help Vet Jurors" href="http://www.law.com/jsp/legaltechnology/pubArticleLT.jsp?id=1202423725315" target="_blank">to help pick jurors.</a></p>
<p>The popularity of social networking — and the growing popularity of their use in civil and criminal cases — means lawyers simply cannot ignore them.  Heck, Collexis recently even created <a title="CasemakerX" href="http://www.casemakerx.com/home.php" target="_blank">CasemakerX,</a>a social networking site for law students!  It&#8217;s safe to say, then, that social networking websites are here to stay.  If you&#8217;re a lawyer, you better be up on the implications.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re a potential juror, remember:  We&#8217;re watching you.  <img src='http://www.rhdefense.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_34" class="footnote">I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s more exciting: the fact that Probable Cause has already attracted that much attention or the fact that in the same month, my personal blog, <a title="Unspun&amp;#8482;" href="http://www.unspun.us" target="_blank">Unspun™</a> attracted the attention of <a title="Bush v. Gore Rears Its Head: The Triumph of Politics Over Law (Part II)" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shahid-buttar/bush-v-gore-rears-its-hea_b_115754.html" target="_blank">someone at Ariana Huffington&#8217;s website!</a> The Huffington Post article quotes <a title="Marbury v. Madison: Part I" href="http://unspun.us/law-and-legal-issues/marbury-v-madison-part-i/" target="_blank">my article on <em>Marbury v. Madison</em>,</a> one of the seminal and most important of all United States Supreme Court cases.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>No Expectation of Privacy on the Internet?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A concept near and dear to my heart for years now has re-surfaced in the news. For many years, I made my living working with computers.  Prior to being an attorney, I worked with the first two Internet Service Provider companies in the Fresno area.  This was immediately after the first Internet web [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A concept near and dear to my heart for years now has <a title="Don't judge Kozinski by his porn" href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-kozinski13-2008jun13,0,7851865.story" target="_blank">re-surfaced in the news.</a> For many years, I made my living working with computers.  Prior to being an attorney, I worked with the first two Internet Service Provider companies in the Fresno area.  This was immediately after the first Internet web browser (Mosaic) was developed and the Internet &#8220;went commercial.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Being</em> of a philosophical bent and also with a strong interest in Anthropology, I couldn&#8217;t help but ponder some the impact the Internet was having on our world.  And, of course, <em>privacy </em>issues were quickly becoming paramount.</p>
<p><span id="more-14"></span>The impact computers and internetworks have had upon privacy concerns is not limited to the Internet, of course.  Nowadays, in particular, someone who wanted to know could tell what kind of food you prefer to eat, what types of medicines you require, what books you like to read, etc.  Even if you don&#8217;t use a credit card, you probably have something like a Von&#8217;s card.  These are perfectly good for tracking your purchases and dumping them into some massive database somewhere just waiting to be mined.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t give me that, &#8220;It&#8217;s not tracking <em>individual</em> purchases.  It just collects data, but &#8216;anonymously.&#8217;&#8221;  Do you think when the checker looks at your receipt and says, &#8220;Thank you, Mr. Horowitz,&#8221; that they just happen to have prodigious memories and recognize all the customers who&#8217;ve ever come through the line?</p>
<p>But enough of longing for the old days, when what one ate, bought, or needed was nobody else&#8217;s <a title="Data Mining: Big Brother or Big Business?" href="http://www.sqlmag.com/Article/ArticleID/92785/sql_server_92785.html" target="_blank"><em>business</em>.</a></p>
<p>Recently, Judge Kozinski of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals was <a title="Bestiality trial overshadowed by judge's animal sex video" href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/06/12/1212863783995.html" target="_blank">smeared</a> by the media after an angry litigant invaded his privacy and discovered what, for awhile, was erroneously referred to as &#8220;Internet porn.&#8221;<sup>1</sup>   Whoa!  A judge in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is into Internet porn!?!?</p>
<p>Turns out, it&#8217;s not quite that juicy.<sup>2</sup></p>
<p>The interesting thing about this is not that Judge Kozinski had files of which some people might disapprove on his computer.  Nor is it interesting to realize how easy it is to incorrectly set up a computer so that it can be invaded by miscreants who don&#8217;t care about your privacy rights.  What&#8217;s interesting is the people saying things like, &#8220;There <em>is no</em> expectation of privacy on the Internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why not?  My initial response to this statement, posted earlier today on the ABA&#8217;s solo practitioners&#8217; listserv, was similar to that of Lawrence Lessig&#8217;s.<sup>3</sup></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The thing I find wrong with arguments against any expectation of privacy on the Internet is this:<span> </span>I see no difference between hacking into someone&#8217;s computer system and hacking into their house, or mailbox.<span> </span>Some people hack into houses using their feet: I&#8217;ve defended some whose alleged <em>modus operandi</em> is kicking in doors.<span> </span>Others break windows.<span> </span>Some simply walk in to homes after owners leave doors unlocked.<span> </span>Do none of those people who choose to live in houses have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their own homes?<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Some people hack into mailboxes by various means.<span> </span>For the older-style mailboxes that don&#8217;t have keys, hacking is even easier: there&#8217;s not so much as an index.php or index.html.<sup>4</sup>  You simply walk to the box outside the house, pull the front open with the handy latch and, <em>voila!</em>, you&#8217;re in!<span> </span>Then you hack into the envelope and retrieve the goodies.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The argument that people don&#8217;t have an expectation of privacy in their own stuff just because it&#8217;s possible to hack into it without having to physically kick in a door or break into a mailbox is specious.<span> </span>The ownership of the stuff is undisputed.<span> </span>The <span style="text-decoration: underline;">DESIRE </span>to not have others going through one&#8217;s stuff is likely still there.<span> </span>Just because the invaders did not have to physically journey to your home to violate you doesn&#8217;t make you any less violated.<span> </span>That they could rifle through your private communications without having to actually break the doors or physically tear open the envelopes should not alter whether or not you have an expectation of privacy.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Unless we think that your stupidity in owning a house and keeping things behind a door which can be kicked in, or having an old-style mailbox anyone can pull open to steal your mail means you have no reasonable expectation of privacy.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I&#8217;m sorry.  There are <em>no </em>locks so strong that they can&#8217;t be broken somehow.  Just ask <a title="IMDB: Ben Gates" href="http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0007102/" target="_blank">Benjamin Franklin Gates.</a></p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_14" class="footnote">For those who may visit this article after the links have expired, there was no Internet porn.  There was definitely no bestiality.  As others have noted, the &#8220;bestiality video&#8221; was a silly video that had been posted on YouTube — hardly the hotbed of hardcore perverse pornography.</li><li id="footnote_1_14" class="footnote">See Lawrence Lessig&#8217;s article on this for more at <a title="The Kozinski mess" href="http://www.lessig.org/blog/2008/06/the_kozinski_mess.html" target="_blank">http://www.lessig.org/blog/2008/06/the_kozinski_mess.html</a>.</li><li id="footnote_2_14" class="footnote"><em>Ibid</em>.</li><li id="footnote_3_14" class="footnote">Such pages will usually prevent you from seeing what other files might exist in the same directory where they are found.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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